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[00:00:40 –> 00:00:42] I’m Father Mark-Mary. – Hey, everybody.
[00:00:42 –> 00:00:43] Father Innocent here.
[00:00:43 –> 00:00:44] Hey, Father PT.
[00:00:45 –> 00:00:47] Father Angelus right here.
[00:00:49 –> 00:00:50] There’s some sort of assembly happening
[00:00:50 –> 00:00:51] in the hallway outside of my room.
[00:00:51 –> 00:00:53] I don’t know if you guys can hear that.
[00:00:53 –> 00:00:54] Nope. – I don’t know
[00:00:54 –> 00:00:55] if you can hear the bird outside.
[00:00:55 –> 00:00:58] It’s pretty loud. – I did hear the bird.
[00:00:58 –> 00:00:59] Are you popular with the seminarians?
[00:00:59 –> 00:01:01] Do they get excited about when you come?
[00:01:01 –> 00:01:02] No. – Yo, Father Mary, what up?
[00:01:02 –> 00:01:03] No. – No.
[00:01:03 –> 00:01:05] I’m not like, I’m not really in the mix.
[00:01:07 –> 00:01:09] I mean, you walk here. – Okay.
[00:01:09 –> 00:01:11] Because they just moved my,
[00:01:11 –> 00:01:14] I mean, last year, they moved my office, where it’s, like,
[00:01:14 –> 00:01:15] down a guest wing.
[00:01:16 –> 00:01:18] Nobody goes down there.
[00:01:19 –> 00:01:20] I don’t, yeah.
[00:01:20 –> 00:01:22] So, like, most people don’t ever know if I’m here
[00:01:22 –> 00:01:23] or when I’m here.
[00:01:25 –> 00:01:26] So I just have, like, my directees.
[00:01:29 –> 00:01:31] Like, when I first, like, three years ago I was,
[00:01:31 –> 00:01:33] but they just didn’t, they got what they need here.
[00:01:33 –> 00:01:34] They don’t need me,
[00:01:35 –> 00:01:36] so.
[00:01:37 –> 00:01:39] But anyway, hopefully, I mean, there’s a lot of opportunity
[00:01:39 –> 00:01:41] for CFR spiritual direction here.
[00:01:42 –> 00:01:44] But that’s not for this.
[00:01:44 –> 00:01:46] So here’s what is for this.
[00:01:46 –> 00:01:47] Tell us. – Father Innocent-
[00:01:47 –> 00:01:48] I mean, you can do it if you lived in town
[00:01:48 –> 00:01:50] and just saying, anyway.
[00:01:51 –> 00:01:53] I’m in my long-walk phase,
[00:01:53 –> 00:01:53] where I take a lot of
[00:01:53 –> 00:01:56] long walks. – Uh-huh.
[00:01:56 –> 00:01:59] What? – I said, uh-huh.
[00:01:59 –> 00:02:02] And so I have a variety of space
[00:02:02 –> 00:02:06] with which to think about things and entertain myself.
[00:02:06 –> 00:02:11] And the one that I, it kind of, it kind of developed,
[00:02:11 –> 00:02:14] is that the first question was just thinking about
[00:02:16 –> 00:02:21] if the friars on this podcast, like, if their personality
[00:02:21 –> 00:02:25] or the way they lived life applied to,
[00:02:25 –> 00:02:29] like, the way a particular position in football
[00:02:29 –> 00:02:31] plays that position in football,
[00:02:31 –> 00:02:34] like, who would be, like, what different positions?
[00:02:34 –> 00:02:35] Who would be, like,
[00:02:35 –> 00:02:37] but then, like, yeah, like, who, like,
[00:02:38 –> 00:02:39] and I have some thoughts on that,
[00:02:39 –> 00:02:42] but then it also, like, kind of developed,
[00:02:42 –> 00:02:45] ’cause I’m a 49er fan, specifically if, like-
[00:02:45 –> 00:02:46] I could tell. – if all of us
[00:02:46 –> 00:02:48] were 49er players,
[00:02:48 –> 00:02:49] and the way in which we lived life
[00:02:49 –> 00:02:51] was the way in which these players played,
[00:02:51 –> 00:02:53] like, who would be who?
[00:02:53 –> 00:02:56] And that developed to, like, who would you want to be
[00:02:56 –> 00:02:58] and who would you actually be in reality?
[00:03:00 –> 00:03:02] So I’m just gonna give
[00:03:03 –> 00:03:06] my initial thoughts. – Yeah, give your take.
[00:03:07 –> 00:03:08] So I’m gonna put,
[00:03:09 –> 00:03:12] so this is who I think,
[00:03:13 –> 00:03:16] I’m gonna say this is who, for you guys,
[00:03:16 –> 00:03:17] I think you are.
[00:03:18 –> 00:03:20] No, I’m gonna- – Yeah, do it.
[00:03:20 –> 00:03:22] It’s a little bit, it’s not that accurate,
[00:03:22 –> 00:03:23] but it’s a little bit playful.
[00:03:23 –> 00:03:24] ‘Cause I do think some of it
[00:03:24 –> 00:03:24] matched up, like. – Absolutely.
[00:03:24 –> 00:03:27] Father Angelus play quarterback.
[00:03:27 –> 00:03:29] I think quarterback fits.
[00:03:30 –> 00:03:33] I think Father Innocent play defensive end, right?
[00:03:33 –> 00:03:35] And I think defensive end fits.
[00:03:36 –> 00:03:37] Father PT,
[00:03:38 –> 00:03:40] I’m gonna have to make you a wide receiver.
[00:03:40 –> 00:03:42] That’s where I was gonna go for myself.
[00:03:42 –> 00:03:43] Was it?
[00:03:43 –> 00:03:43] Okay, good. – Yeah.
[00:03:43 –> 00:03:45] I’m gonna put you at wide receiver.
[00:03:45 –> 00:03:46] And this might be, like,
[00:03:48 –> 00:03:48] this is where there’s, like, a difference
[00:03:48 –> 00:03:50] in, I think, who I am and who I want to be.
[00:03:50 –> 00:03:52] I think I’d want to be
[00:03:53 –> 00:03:54] a left tackle,
[00:03:57 –> 00:03:58] or at least maybe,
[00:04:00 –> 00:04:01] like, a fullback,
[00:04:01 –> 00:04:04] but I don’t know if I, like, fully am that.
[00:04:04 –> 00:04:06] And so here’s, to take it.
[00:04:06 –> 00:04:08] So I think Father,
[00:04:11 –> 00:04:13] who do we wanna make him?
[00:04:14 –> 00:04:17] Father Innocent, or Angelus, I’m gonna say,
[00:04:19 –> 00:04:21] on a good day, I’m gonna put him,
[00:04:21 –> 00:04:26] on ideal, I think he does fit the Brock Purdy profile.
[00:04:26 –> 00:04:28] Oh, totally. – He’s a pretty boy.
[00:04:28 –> 00:04:29] Totally – Pretty boy.
[00:04:30 –> 00:04:32] Yeah, but,
[00:04:32 –> 00:04:33] why do you say that?
[00:04:33 –> 00:04:34] I think I know what you mean.
[00:04:34 –> 00:04:37] Well, I mean wholesome, good quarterback.
[00:04:37 –> 00:04:38] But also drafted last,
[00:04:38 –> 00:04:40] not a lot of expectations. – Yep.
[00:04:40 –> 00:04:41] You know what I mean?
[00:04:41 –> 00:04:42] And I’m okay with that.
[00:04:42 –> 00:04:44] Totally. – Yeah.
[00:04:44 –> 00:04:45] Yeah.
[00:04:45 –> 00:04:47] And I think, you know, I think, you know,
[00:04:47 –> 00:04:49] I don’t think we’re Tom Brady.
[00:04:49 –> 00:04:51] Oh, I- – You know?
[00:04:51 –> 00:04:52] Also somebody, you know, a little bit,
[00:04:52 –> 00:04:54] a little bit under evaluated, but.
[00:04:55 –> 00:04:58] I mean, you have some of the, you know,
[00:05:00 –> 00:05:01] some of the,
[00:05:01 –> 00:05:05] you put in the time to your self care. (chuckles)
[00:05:05 –> 00:05:07] I don’t like Tom Brady. That’s a joke.
[00:05:07 –> 00:05:08] I can call you Trey Lance,
[00:05:08 –> 00:05:09] but I don’t wanna call you,
[00:05:09 –> 00:05:10] I mean, I don’t think you’re Trey Lance.
[00:05:10 –> 00:05:12] I think you’re, I think Brock Purdy’s a good fit.
[00:05:12 –> 00:05:13] Do you agree?
[00:05:13 –> 00:05:14] Do you think quarterback
[00:05:14 –> 00:05:16] for Father Angelus? – Yeah, I kinda like it too.
[00:05:16 –> 00:05:17] It’s kind of- – Yeah.
[00:05:17 –> 00:05:19] it’s kind of,
[00:05:19 –> 00:05:20] kind of, yeah,
[00:05:20 –> 00:05:21] down the road.
[00:05:21 –> 00:05:23] What do you got? – I see, on the list here,
[00:05:23 –> 00:05:24] Jimmy G.
[00:05:24 –> 00:05:24] I think that’d be more appropriate
[00:05:24 –> 00:05:25] for Father Angelus. (chuckles)
[00:05:25 –> 00:05:27] Well, hold on, hold on, hold on.
[00:05:27 –> 00:05:28] Okay, okay. – You’re not supposed to be
[00:05:28 –> 00:05:30] looking at the list. – My fault, my fault,
[00:05:30 –> 00:05:31] my fault.
[00:05:31 –> 00:05:33] I look at the list.
[00:05:33 –> 00:05:37] I’m gonna give, I think we have, I think,
[00:05:37 –> 00:05:41] I think Father, I’m gonna give Father Innocent,
[00:05:42 –> 00:05:43] what Bosa is it?
[00:05:43 –> 00:05:44] Nick Bosa?
[00:05:44 –> 00:05:46] Yeah, Nick.
[00:05:46 –> 00:05:48] Do you know who Nick Bosa is, Father Innocent?
[00:05:48 –> 00:05:53] He’s just, like, an all-pro defensive end, gets after it.
[00:05:53 –> 00:05:55] He’s a beast. – He is.
[00:05:55 –> 00:05:56] Would you guys,
[00:05:56 –> 00:05:58] like, do you think he’s a,
[00:05:58 –> 00:06:00] I don’t know if a lot of listeners
[00:06:00 –> 00:06:02] would think, immediately, Father Innocent as defensive end.
[00:06:02 –> 00:06:04] Do you guys think that’s true?
[00:06:06 –> 00:06:09] What are the qualities of a defensive end?
[00:06:09 –> 00:06:11] Kind of, like, intense, kind of gets after it.
[00:06:12 –> 00:06:14] I mean, I saw this guy play football.
[00:06:14 –> 00:06:16] Like, something happen when he put his pads on,
[00:06:16 –> 00:06:17] you know what I mean? – But does is it,
[00:06:17 –> 00:06:18] don’t you still think
[00:06:18 –> 00:06:20] it’s there in life? – Oh, totally.
[00:06:20 –> 00:06:21] Yeah. – He’s the one
[00:06:21 –> 00:06:22] who’s taking people out to the desert,
[00:06:22 –> 00:06:24] initiating that. – Yeah.
[00:06:24 –> 00:06:26] In certain sectors, yeah.
[00:06:26 –> 00:06:26] For sure. – Kind of going deep,
[00:06:26 –> 00:06:28] kind of going deep in the spiritual life, getting after it,
[00:06:28 –> 00:06:30] kind of intensity there.
[00:06:30 –> 00:06:31] Absolutely.
[00:06:31 –> 00:06:32] Yeah. – Kinda like
[00:06:32 –> 00:06:33] the good shepherd,
[00:06:33 –> 00:06:36] like, intensely protecting people, getting after it.
[00:06:36 –> 00:06:37] Yeah, totally.
[00:06:39 –> 00:06:40] Yeah. – I think so.
[00:06:40 –> 00:06:42] And I think people, like, I think, you know,
[00:06:42 –> 00:06:44] guys, like, respect him and rally around him.
[00:06:45 –> 00:06:46] Totally.
[00:06:48 –> 00:06:50] So now that we’ve,
[00:06:50 –> 00:06:50] ’cause, Father PT,
[00:06:50 –> 00:06:53] so now we’ve moved to wide receiver for you.
[00:06:53 –> 00:06:55] I had you as, like, I had you in the,
[00:06:55 –> 00:06:56] I had you as a Fred Warner.
[00:06:56 –> 00:06:58] I had you as a linebacker for a minute.
[00:06:59 –> 00:07:02] I’m definitely an offensive player.
[00:07:02 –> 00:07:03] I’ll take the hit.
[00:07:03 –> 00:07:05] You’re definitely an offensive player.
[00:07:05 –> 00:07:06] What do you mean you’re gonna take the hit?
[00:07:06 –> 00:07:09] Meaning, like, I’ll go up and get a pass over the middle,
[00:07:09 –> 00:07:10] like,
[00:07:11 –> 00:07:14] and I’ll take the hit, knowing I, you know, whatever.
[00:07:14 –> 00:07:16] But I feel,
[00:07:17 –> 00:07:20] yeah, like in this comparison, like, just,
[00:07:20 –> 00:07:22] there’s a certain intensity
[00:07:22 –> 00:07:25] that defensive players have that I don’t know if I have.
[00:07:25 –> 00:07:26] If that makes sense.
[00:07:27 –> 00:07:29] Yes.
[00:07:29 –> 00:07:31] And I really appreciate the, “I’ll take the hit.”
[00:07:33 –> 00:07:34] So, yeah.
[00:07:34 –> 00:07:34] So that’s the thing.
[00:07:34 –> 00:07:35] Or, like, yeah, you just throw it out there,
[00:07:35 –> 00:07:36] I’m gonna get it,
[00:07:36 –> 00:07:37] and it doesn’t matter what happens,
[00:07:37 –> 00:07:38] I’m gonna try my best to get it.
[00:07:38 –> 00:07:41] And then I can be folded over on the sideline
[00:07:41 –> 00:07:42] because the pass is too high,
[00:07:42 –> 00:07:43] and you let me across the middle,
[00:07:43 –> 00:07:45] and I got, whatever, pancaked.
[00:07:47 –> 00:07:50] But the hope is that I secure the ball,
[00:07:50 –> 00:07:50] so.
[00:07:52 –> 00:07:53] That’s it. – The problem is
[00:07:53 –> 00:07:55] the 49ers have a tough-
[00:07:55 –> 00:07:57] Brandon Aiyuk. – Are you Brandon Aiyuk?
[00:07:57 –> 00:07:59] You gonna hold out? We’re gonna have to get rid of you?
[00:07:59 –> 00:08:00] That’s the thing.
[00:08:00 –> 00:08:02] Who’s the guy that’s, like, a really elite route runner?
[00:08:02 –> 00:08:03] Was it Aiyuk?
[00:08:03 –> 00:08:05] I don’t know. – Anyway.
[00:08:05 –> 00:08:06] I don’t know. – But anyway,
[00:08:06 –> 00:08:08] I had on there something along the lines of,
[00:08:08 –> 00:08:09] you think, you wanna be
[00:08:11 –> 00:08:12] Fred Warner,
[00:08:12 –> 00:08:13] but you are
[00:08:15 –> 00:08:18] Colin Kaepernick. (chuckles)
[00:08:20 –> 00:08:23] Out of the league. (chuckles)
[00:08:23 –> 00:08:24] That’s mostly what I wanted to get to
[00:08:24 –> 00:08:26] at this whole conversation.
[00:08:29 –> 00:08:31] I like that though, being able to take the hit.
[00:08:32 –> 00:08:34] I like that. – Yeah, so.
[00:08:35 –> 00:08:37] I think there’s more to, anyway.
[00:08:37 –> 00:08:38] And then I’m gonna, like,
[00:08:38 –> 00:08:41] ’cause the thing about Trent Williams as left tackle,
[00:08:41 –> 00:08:42] is I think he’s above me,
[00:08:42 –> 00:08:44] but, like, the guy who’s, like, got the
[00:08:44 –> 00:08:45] quarterback’s back. – Totally.
[00:08:47 –> 00:08:48] I don’t know that that’s what life
[00:08:48 –> 00:08:52] usually often exclusively puts me in that position.
[00:08:52 –> 00:08:55] But, like, in an ideal world,
[00:08:55 –> 00:08:56] the guy who’s just, like, in the trenches,
[00:08:56 –> 00:08:57] getting work done-
[00:08:59 –> 00:09:01] helping people. – and has, like,
[00:09:01 –> 00:09:03] that’s your responsibility.
[00:09:03 –> 00:09:04] That’s who I’d want to be.
[00:09:06 –> 00:09:07] Unfortunately, I’m just
[00:09:09 –> 00:09:10] Jimmy Garoppolo.
[00:09:11 –> 00:09:12] You are not Jimmy. – I mean that’s
[00:09:12 –> 00:09:13] what people say a lot.
[00:09:13 –> 00:09:15] People say- – In what way,
[00:09:15 –> 00:09:16] that you’re Jimmy Garoppolo?
[00:09:16 –> 00:09:18] When they see me around, they’re, like,
[00:09:18 –> 00:09:20] “Wait, you look like somebody.”
[00:09:20 –> 00:09:21] Like, “Have I seen you before?”
[00:09:21 –> 00:09:24] And sometimes I’m like, “I don’t know.
[00:09:24 –> 00:09:25] I mean, I guess maybe, like”-
[00:09:25 –> 00:09:28] Not knowing what- – YouTube, no.
[00:09:28 –> 00:09:31] No, like, “No, no, football. 49ers.”
[00:09:33 –> 00:09:34] And then it’s, like, “Oh, Jimmy G.”
[00:09:34 –> 00:09:35] Yeah. I’m like, “Yeah, I know.
[00:09:35 –> 00:09:37] I get that a lot.” It’s, like, annoying.
[00:09:37 –> 00:09:38] Not to, anyway,
[00:09:38 –> 00:09:41] just to say, you would look more like Kyle Juszczyk
[00:09:41 –> 00:09:42] as opposed to- – Dude.
[00:09:42 –> 00:09:44] I don’t even know what he looks like.
[00:09:44 –> 00:09:45] I’ll take it.
[00:09:45 –> 00:09:46] You guys, the whole,
[00:09:46 –> 00:09:47] you have no idea what I’m talking about.
[00:09:47 –> 00:09:50] And Jimmy G is famously known
[00:09:50 –> 00:09:52] for being exceedingly handsome.
[00:09:55 –> 00:09:55] That’s the joke.
[00:09:55 –> 00:09:57] Father Innocent just removed
[00:09:57 –> 00:09:59] his headphones. – Yeah, he’s done.
[00:09:59 –> 00:10:00] He’s done
[00:10:00 –> 00:10:01] with this conversation. – I just,
[00:10:01 –> 00:10:04] I can hear you. I just changed the audio.
[00:10:06 –> 00:10:07] The other thing about Nick Bosa
[00:10:07 –> 00:10:09] is he gets hurt a lot,
[00:10:09 –> 00:10:10] or he’s hurt,
[00:10:10 –> 00:10:12] so that’s also
[00:10:12 –> 00:10:13] a Father Innocent comp. – Didn’t he have, like,
[00:10:13 –> 00:10:15] a back thing too?
[00:10:15 –> 00:10:16] No. – Probably.
[00:10:16 –> 00:10:17] He gets hurt a lot. – Yeah.
[00:10:19 –> 00:10:20] Guys. – He’s also intense
[00:10:20 –> 00:10:23] but fragile. (hosts laughs)
[00:10:23 –> 00:10:24] It’s not your fault.
[00:10:24 –> 00:10:25] But he’s a game changer. – Are those weird
[00:10:25 –> 00:10:26] to go together?
[00:10:26 –> 00:10:28] I feel fragile, actually,
[00:10:28 –> 00:10:30] in all ways right now.
[00:10:30 –> 00:10:31] Intense but fragile.
[00:10:33 –> 00:10:34] All right.
[00:10:34 –> 00:10:35] So thank you,
[00:10:36 –> 00:10:37] everyone,
[00:10:37 –> 00:10:38] for allowing me- – It was a fun game.
[00:10:38 –> 00:10:40] Thank you. – to have that conversation.
[00:10:40 –> 00:10:42] And I would love to keep doing that
[00:10:42 –> 00:10:44] with other positions and basketball.
[00:10:44 –> 00:10:44] Anyway.
[00:10:44 –> 00:10:47] But here we are, here we are,
[00:10:47 –> 00:10:48] talking about,
[00:10:50 –> 00:10:51] I would be an offensive coordinator.
[00:10:51 –> 00:10:52] I wouldn’t even be a player.
[00:10:52 –> 00:10:53] Okay, anyway.
[00:10:56 –> 00:11:00] This is a theme that came up in a previous episode,
[00:11:00 –> 00:11:04] that Father Angelus mentioned this idea about,
[00:11:04 –> 00:11:06] like, borrowing from another
[00:11:07 –> 00:11:08] and borrowing from the Lord.
[00:11:08 –> 00:11:10] And it was when we were talking about the prodigal son
[00:11:10 –> 00:11:12] and, I think the older son,
[00:11:12 –> 00:11:14] and it was, like, on forgiveness.
[00:11:14 –> 00:11:16] And some of the foundation
[00:11:16 –> 00:11:18] that you were laying in that conversation,
[00:11:18 –> 00:11:19] Father Angelus was
[00:11:23 –> 00:11:24] just, like, reminding us that, like,
[00:11:24 –> 00:11:27] you don’t, like, forgive by yourself,
[00:11:27 –> 00:11:29] and you don’t have to forgive by yourself.
[00:11:29 –> 00:11:30] Like, you don’t, like,
[00:11:32 –> 00:11:33] it’s, like, grace.
[00:11:33 –> 00:11:36] And it was in this context that you introduced
[00:11:36 –> 00:11:39] this, like, idea of, like, what you don’t have,
[00:11:39 –> 00:11:40] like, you borrow,
[00:11:40 –> 00:11:41] and, like, borrowing from the Lord,
[00:11:41 –> 00:11:42] and allowing
[00:11:43 –> 00:11:47] His abundance, if you will, to flow into and provide
[00:11:47 –> 00:11:49] for your poverty.
[00:11:49 –> 00:11:50] And this is part of, like,
[00:11:51 –> 00:11:53] the movement of grace.
[00:11:53 –> 00:11:55] And I just thought, like,
[00:11:55 –> 00:11:57] I think it’s, like, a really beautiful image,
[00:11:57 –> 00:11:59] and in so many different ways,
[00:11:59 –> 00:12:00] this idea of, like, borrowing,
[00:12:00 –> 00:12:02] of, like, not having but having access to another
[00:12:02 –> 00:12:04] who has an abundance to share,
[00:12:04 –> 00:12:07] like borrowing faith, borrowing mercy, borrowing hope,
[00:12:07 –> 00:12:10] but also, like, how we can lend mercy, lend faith,
[00:12:10 –> 00:12:13] lend hope, like, to provide for someone else’s lack.
[00:12:16 –> 00:12:18] Can you just, like,
[00:12:18 –> 00:12:20] expound upon that a little bit,
[00:12:20 –> 00:12:21] Father Angelus?
[00:12:21 –> 00:12:23] Yeah.
[00:12:23 –> 00:12:27] I think this conversation was on the list for, like,
[00:12:27 –> 00:12:28] like, eight episodes,
[00:12:28 –> 00:12:29] but then I kept getting kicked off,
[00:12:29 –> 00:12:31] so glad we can finally have it a little bit.
[00:12:33 –> 00:12:35] One of the things in just thinking about that today
[00:12:35 –> 00:12:36] in preparation for this,
[00:12:37 –> 00:12:41] the initial concept I think comes from,
[00:12:41 –> 00:12:42] maybe I’ll give an image.
[00:12:42 –> 00:12:45] The image is, is think of my sister,
[00:12:45 –> 00:12:46] I don’t know if she listens to anymore,
[00:12:46 –> 00:12:48] but just think of my sister who
[00:12:49 –> 00:12:52] has her five-year-old come up to her
[00:12:52 –> 00:12:54] in a really difficult space,
[00:12:54 –> 00:12:57] we would say, in the nervous system, dysregulated,
[00:12:57 –> 00:13:00] upset, crying, hurt.
[00:13:00 –> 00:13:04] And if what my sister can offer the five-year-old,
[00:13:04 –> 00:13:07] the five-year-old boy is her calm and her peace
[00:13:07 –> 00:13:09] and her ability to be with him
[00:13:09 –> 00:13:11] in the midst of his own difficulty.
[00:13:11 –> 00:13:14] Now, the challenge is, is if my sister’s struggling,
[00:13:14 –> 00:13:16] then this little boy who’s triggered and upset
[00:13:16 –> 00:13:19] and disconnected and raging,
[00:13:19 –> 00:13:24] if that triggers my sister to be dysregulated, raging,
[00:13:25 –> 00:13:28] angry, upset, then you have two dysregulated people
[00:13:28 –> 00:13:29] hanging out.
[00:13:29 –> 00:13:33] And that’s not necessarily ideal. (chuckles)
[00:13:33 –> 00:13:36] But the reality is, is if my sister, as the mom,
[00:13:36 –> 00:13:38] as the one who’s trying to mature, trying to grow,
[00:13:38 –> 00:13:41] trying to be virtuous, doing her own work to consider,
[00:13:41 –> 00:13:42] “Hey, what triggers me?
[00:13:42 –> 00:13:44] When people get upset, how do I show up?”
[00:13:44 –> 00:13:45] And if she’s doing her own work,
[00:13:45 –> 00:13:47] and God bless my sister, I know she is,
[00:13:47 –> 00:13:49] then she can
[00:13:50 –> 00:13:53] show up in life, particularly in these situations
[00:13:54 –> 00:13:55] where you have a lot of dysregulated kids,
[00:13:55 –> 00:13:58] ’cause that’s what kids are, mostly dysregulated,
[00:13:58 –> 00:14:00] she can offer something to them, which is,
[00:14:00 –> 00:14:02] I don’t have to figure it out right now.
[00:14:02 –> 00:14:04] I don’t have to give perfect advice,
[00:14:04 –> 00:14:05] and I don’t have to make everything better,
[00:14:05 –> 00:14:07] but I will offer you my calm body,
[00:14:08 –> 00:14:12] and I will offer you a presence that allows you to see me
[00:14:12 –> 00:14:14] and experience me and settle down.
[00:14:15 –> 00:14:17] But if everybody’s getting triggered,
[00:14:17 –> 00:14:19] then no one really settles down,
[00:14:19 –> 00:14:20] which I just think is interesting.
[00:14:20 –> 00:14:23] So the five-year-old borrows my sister’s peace
[00:14:23 –> 00:14:25] or borrows my sister’s calm,
[00:14:25 –> 00:14:29] borrows my sister’s breathing that’s slow,
[00:14:29 –> 00:14:31] borrows the voice that’s nurturing
[00:14:32 –> 00:14:34] and has the experience of, like,
[00:14:34 –> 00:14:35] “Well, I’m feeling this,
[00:14:35 –> 00:14:37] but mom is actually offering me something
[00:14:37 –> 00:14:39] where she’s holding me, she’s holding,
[00:14:39 –> 00:14:41] she’s soothing me,
[00:14:41 –> 00:14:43] and then she calms me down,
[00:14:43 –> 00:14:45] and then I can, like, work out, like, okay, what happened?
[00:14:45 –> 00:14:46] Why are you feeling this way?”
[00:14:48 –> 00:14:48] And so I like that.
[00:14:48 –> 00:14:51] I like that as an image to start off, like,
[00:14:51 –> 00:14:53] oh, yeah, this is what parents do all the time.
[00:14:53 –> 00:14:55] They lend their kids stuff,
[00:14:55 –> 00:14:57] especially when the kid’s younger
[00:14:57 –> 00:14:58] and they can’t quite make sense
[00:14:58 –> 00:15:00] of what I’m supposed to do here, what I’m supposed to feel.
[00:15:00 –> 00:15:02] All they know is this raw feeling and this raw emotion
[00:15:02 –> 00:15:05] that hasn’t necessarily been ordered yet,
[00:15:05 –> 00:15:07] and I bring it to someone.
[00:15:07 –> 00:15:10] And mom, because of her ability to stay calm,
[00:15:10 –> 00:15:14] connected and regulated, offers me something different
[00:15:14 –> 00:15:15] rather than,
[00:15:15 –> 00:15:16] and again, we all have experiences where, like,
[00:15:16 –> 00:15:19] there’s people that are having the intense discussions,
[00:15:19 –> 00:15:19] and everybody’s dysregulated,
[00:15:19 –> 00:15:22] and you, like, wonder why we don’t get anywhere.
[00:15:22 –> 00:15:25] Well, ’cause there’s no one offering stillness
[00:15:25 –> 00:15:27] or understanding or peace
[00:15:28 –> 00:15:30] or something that can calm things down.
[00:15:30 –> 00:15:33] And, Father, did you have something to say?
[00:15:33 –> 00:15:34] Anybody? – Yeah, so, like, regulated,
[00:15:34 –> 00:15:35] dysregulated, regulate,
[00:15:35 –> 00:15:37] like, dysregulated would be like
[00:15:37 –> 00:15:38] there’s, like, an interior storm,
[00:15:38 –> 00:15:41] regulated would be like calm seas.
[00:15:41 –> 00:15:42] Would that be
[00:15:42 –> 00:15:43] the language- – Yeah.
[00:15:43 –> 00:15:44] what it means? – And
[00:15:44 –> 00:15:46] some of the people are familiar with, like,
[00:15:47 –> 00:15:50] when something triggers me, I go in fight or flight.
[00:15:50 –> 00:15:52] So I wanna run away, I wanna get upset, I wanna, like,
[00:15:52 –> 00:15:54] or I shut down, like.
[00:15:54 –> 00:15:55] I feel like sometimes,
[00:15:55 –> 00:15:57] I’ve realized recently in my own life,
[00:15:57 –> 00:15:59] I actually shut down more than I think.
[00:15:59 –> 00:16:01] Sometimes I feel like I run away when things happen,
[00:16:01 –> 00:16:04] but I’m actually, I shut off inside so maybe I shut down.
[00:16:04 –> 00:16:08] And so people have ways they deal with intense things.
[00:16:08 –> 00:16:11] And, generally, it’s, I wanna run, I wanna fight
[00:16:11 –> 00:16:13] or I wanna back away and totally shut off.
[00:16:13 –> 00:16:16] And so, again, your storm, like, the storm’s brewing,
[00:16:16 –> 00:16:17] and so I’m upset,
[00:16:18 –> 00:16:20] or it’s like there’s a storm brewing,
[00:16:20 –> 00:16:23] and I, like, just wanna back away and shut down.
[00:16:23 –> 00:16:27] And so can I borrow that? Can I borrow someone else’s peace?
[00:16:27 –> 00:16:31] Can I borrow someone else’s confidence in the Lord?
[00:16:31 –> 00:16:32] Can I borrow someone else’s calmness
[00:16:32 –> 00:16:34] in the midst of maybe emotional reality
[00:16:34 –> 00:16:36] where I’m feeling something?
[00:16:37 –> 00:16:40] And it’s interesting because that challenges me personally
[00:16:40 –> 00:16:42] because it’s, like, how do I show up somewhere,
[00:16:42 –> 00:16:44] especially when someone is struggling
[00:16:44 –> 00:16:46] or a postulant who needs something,
[00:16:46 –> 00:16:48] or one of the neighbors who needs something?
[00:16:48 –> 00:16:50] Like, am I showing up to offer them something
[00:16:51 –> 00:16:52] more than just advice?
[00:16:52 –> 00:16:53] ‘Cause they feel it.
[00:16:53 –> 00:16:55] If you’re calm, people feel it.
[00:16:56 –> 00:16:58] People have an experience of, like,
[00:16:58 –> 00:17:01] “Okay, Father can hold this with me because he is connected,
[00:17:01 –> 00:17:04] and he’s able to offer me something in the midst of me
[00:17:06 –> 00:17:09] maybe going crazy or being anxious or being afraid
[00:17:09 –> 00:17:11] or me being so totally upset.”
[00:17:12 –> 00:17:13] Yeah, that’s just,
[00:17:13 –> 00:17:14] I think that’s
[00:17:16 –> 00:17:18] where I would’ve
[00:17:18 –> 00:17:19] initially got that concept,
[00:17:19 –> 00:17:22] but it’s beautiful as we look at the life of Jesus,
[00:17:22 –> 00:17:26] and it’s beautiful as we consider what Jesus offer us
[00:17:26 –> 00:17:28] is, like, He offers us
[00:17:28 –> 00:17:31] the ability to be with us in the midst of our storm.
[00:17:31 –> 00:17:34] He offers us, like, a calm body, a calm heart,
[00:17:34 –> 00:17:35] an open heart.
[00:17:36 –> 00:17:38] Yes, advice,
[00:17:38 –> 00:17:41] yes, ways to help us feel better,
[00:17:41 –> 00:17:44] but I think what He offers us in His presence,
[00:17:44 –> 00:17:46] maybe, like, when we think about the Eucharist
[00:17:46 –> 00:17:48] or we think about the gift of prayer,
[00:17:48 –> 00:17:50] like, what He offers us there in the midst of that
[00:17:51 –> 00:17:53] can be, I think, pretty profound and significant
[00:17:53 –> 00:17:55] if we’re aware of what we need.
[00:17:56 –> 00:17:59] And I think the thing that I would just affirm there
[00:18:00 –> 00:18:03] is the profound reality of what Jesus offers us.
[00:18:03 –> 00:18:05] And because, again, this is, like,
[00:18:06 –> 00:18:09] this is intertwined in how we’re made, right?
[00:18:09 –> 00:18:11] Like, I loved how you used,
[00:18:11 –> 00:18:13] use examples of children.
[00:18:13 –> 00:18:15] Like, they have no capacity.
[00:18:15 –> 00:18:18] They’re so needy. We need someone else’s presence.
[00:18:18 –> 00:18:21] I just love, that’s, like, the starting place.
[00:18:22 –> 00:18:23] But it’s interesting,
[00:18:23 –> 00:18:25] and, again, this won’t be a long comment, it’s just simple
[00:18:25 –> 00:18:29] because, Father Angelus, like, the catechism even says that,
[00:18:29 –> 00:18:33] like, we are even borrowers of Jesus’s prayer.
[00:18:33 –> 00:18:36] We don’t even have, our prayer life is not our own.
[00:18:36 –> 00:18:37] It says there’s one way of prayer,
[00:18:37 –> 00:18:38] and that’s Jesus Christ.
[00:18:38 –> 00:18:41] It’s His relationship with the Father
[00:18:41 –> 00:18:42] that we’re invited into.
[00:18:42 –> 00:18:44] And so we borrow even prayer.
[00:18:47 –> 00:18:49] Prayer’s not a thing that’s mine.
[00:18:49 –> 00:18:53] It’s I borrow because of my identity in Jesus
[00:18:53 –> 00:18:56] to be, like, a son or a daughter in Him.
[00:18:56 –> 00:18:59] It means I borrow everything that He is.
[00:18:59 –> 00:19:02] So my identity is in His identity.
[00:19:02 –> 00:19:07] My prayer, my union, my communion is in His communion.
[00:19:07 –> 00:19:09] He says, like, “Okay, like, let me give you
[00:19:09 –> 00:19:10] a share in my life.”
[00:19:10 –> 00:19:13] Like, today’s gospel in John, it’s amazing, like.
[00:19:13 –> 00:19:16] “As the Father loves me, so I love you.”
[00:19:16 –> 00:19:17] Like, “Remain in my love,”
[00:19:17 –> 00:19:20] and if we remain, then we borrow.
[00:19:20 –> 00:19:23] We get to live His very prayer life, right?
[00:19:23 –> 00:19:26] And I told the guys, in religious life, it’s not,
[00:19:26 –> 00:19:29] it’s not even our own chastity, poverty and obedience.
[00:19:29 –> 00:19:30] Vita Cotacranta says,
[00:19:30 –> 00:19:34] “Vita Consecrata”, the document on the church,
[00:19:34 –> 00:19:35] gives us on religious life.
[00:19:35 –> 00:19:38] It says that we actually share and borrow,
[00:19:38 –> 00:19:40] they don’t use that word but I am,
[00:19:40 –> 00:19:43] we borrow Jesus’s own chastity, poverty and obedience
[00:19:43 –> 00:19:45] before the Father.
[00:19:45 –> 00:19:48] And so I just love that.
[00:19:48 –> 00:19:49] We don’t even have,
[00:19:50 –> 00:19:53] like, the church envisions that this is what we do.
[00:19:53 –> 00:19:56] We borrow the very life of Jesus and His grace
[00:19:56 –> 00:19:57] through live in relationship.
[00:19:57 –> 00:19:59] And so that’s just such good news.
[00:19:59 –> 00:20:02] We don’t have to figure out how to do this by ourselves
[00:20:02 –> 00:20:05] or figure out, like, what I have to,
[00:20:06 –> 00:20:08] what I have to grasp at to make this all work.
[00:20:08 –> 00:20:10] And if I can live in relationship with Jesus
[00:20:10 –> 00:20:12] and borrow His very life,
[00:20:12 –> 00:20:15] then that’s what I can give to other people.
[00:20:15 –> 00:20:19] That’s what they can borrow from me, is the stability.
[00:20:19 –> 00:20:22] Like Jesus says, “My peace,” like,
[00:20:22 –> 00:20:23] “My peace I give you.
[00:20:23 –> 00:20:25] Not as the world gives, do I give it to you.”
[00:20:25 –> 00:20:27] And so when we live in the peace of Jesus,
[00:20:27 –> 00:20:29] that’s the peace we can give.
[00:20:29 –> 00:20:31] And that’s, like, the Christian life or the mystical life.
[00:20:31 –> 00:20:34] That’s just how it flows and works.
[00:20:35 –> 00:20:36] Yeah, I’m just grateful for this conversation
[00:20:36 –> 00:20:40] ’cause, yeah, I think I first heard this on
[00:20:41 –> 00:20:42] a different podcast.
[00:20:42 –> 00:20:44] I can’t think of the name right now.
[00:20:44 –> 00:20:45] But it’s just a,
[00:20:45 –> 00:20:46] it’s just a real- – It’s probably
[00:20:46 –> 00:20:48] Gods planning, bro. – No, it wasn’t that one.
[00:20:48 –> 00:20:49] It was the
[00:20:49 –> 00:20:51] Bob shoots and Jacob- – Restore The Glory.
[00:20:51 –> 00:20:52] Yeah. – Oh, sure.
[00:20:52 –> 00:20:53] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. – Restore The Glory.
[00:20:53 –> 00:20:54] Shout out to them.
[00:20:54 –> 00:20:55] They’re not listening,
[00:20:55 –> 00:20:56] but anyway.
[00:20:57 –> 00:20:58] Just that, yeah,
[00:20:58 –> 00:21:01] just borrowing from God in particular, these things.
[00:21:01 –> 00:21:03] And, yeah, specifically with the parent,
[00:21:03 –> 00:21:04] as you mentioned, Father Angelus.
[00:21:04 –> 00:21:06] And there is a beautiful way in which,
[00:21:06 –> 00:21:08] our spiritual life, this can happen.
[00:21:08 –> 00:21:09] But I think also too,
[00:21:09 –> 00:21:12] like, y’all just went through, like, the spiritual life,
[00:21:12 –> 00:21:14] and we’re gonna talk about just, like, mercy and hope
[00:21:14 –> 00:21:16] and all these different things,
[00:21:16 –> 00:21:19] but, like, I think also too for, like, our identity
[00:21:19 –> 00:21:23] or just, like, who we are, just resting on that place
[00:21:23 –> 00:21:25] of sometimes
[00:21:25 –> 00:21:27] I don’t feel,
[00:21:28 –> 00:21:29] yeah, like, I feel like my identity is being attacked,
[00:21:29 –> 00:21:31] or I feel like there’s something that is,
[00:21:31 –> 00:21:33] as you said, Father Angelus, like, dysregulating.
[00:21:33 –> 00:21:35] And so can I tap into the piece of Christ?
[00:21:35 –> 00:21:37] Can I, like, in scripture, as I’m reading it,
[00:21:37 –> 00:21:39] and I see Jesus is calm even though there’s accusers,
[00:21:39 –> 00:21:42] and they wanna throw Him off the brow of hill,
[00:21:42 –> 00:21:44] but He somehow, like, calmly moves through that.
[00:21:44 –> 00:21:46] Like, I feel that meaning I feel attacked
[00:21:46 –> 00:21:48] or I feel, like, in this vulnerable state,
[00:21:48 –> 00:21:49] but Jesus has this peace.
[00:21:49 –> 00:21:51] And, Jesus, can You gimme the peace right now that I desire,
[00:21:51 –> 00:21:55] or Jesus, can, like, You have this confidence of,
[00:21:55 –> 00:21:57] like, everything I hear from the Father, I give to you,
[00:21:57 –> 00:22:00] and just, Jesus, I can’t hear the voice of the Father.
[00:22:00 –> 00:22:00] Can You help me?
[00:22:00 –> 00:22:03] And so, yeah, so pleading and asking Jesus, like,
[00:22:03 –> 00:22:04] just to give you those things
[00:22:04 –> 00:22:05] because, like, in the act of borrowing,
[00:22:05 –> 00:22:07] somebody has to freely give it to you.
[00:22:07 –> 00:22:10] And Jesus obviously freely gives us everything,
[00:22:10 –> 00:22:10] even including Himself
[00:22:10 –> 00:22:12] and His body, blood, soul, and divinity.
[00:22:12 –> 00:22:15] But it is something where, I think,
[00:22:15 –> 00:22:17] yeah, this is a huge aspect of
[00:22:17 –> 00:22:18] obviously our psychological life
[00:22:18 –> 00:22:20] that we do without thinking about,
[00:22:20 –> 00:22:22] but how awesome would that be
[00:22:22 –> 00:22:24] if this is a part of our spiritual life,
[00:22:24 –> 00:22:25] where this is, like, second nature for us,
[00:22:25 –> 00:22:27] where, gosh, like,
[00:22:27 –> 00:22:28] I remember this experience of being anxious,
[00:22:28 –> 00:22:31] and then, huh, like, what was Jesus’ experience
[00:22:31 –> 00:22:32] of being anxious,
[00:22:32 –> 00:22:34] or our ladies, you know, moved in this place
[00:22:34 –> 00:22:36] or even, like, a favorite saint or somebody that we have
[00:22:36 –> 00:22:39] that is not just a distant memory to us,
[00:22:39 –> 00:22:41] or, like, this person who’s not involved in the situation,
[00:22:41 –> 00:22:43] but actually a friend who’s walking with us
[00:22:43 –> 00:22:45] that we can, like, lean back and say,
[00:22:45 –> 00:22:46] “Oh, yes”?
[00:22:46 –> 00:22:47] Like, my Father,
[00:22:47 –> 00:22:48] like, Jesus is never shaken by these things,
[00:22:48 –> 00:22:50] and so, Jesus, I’m shaken.
[00:22:50 –> 00:22:53] Can You help me just remain strong and faithful here?
[00:22:54 –> 00:22:55] And I think that’s deeper than just,
[00:22:55 –> 00:22:56] like, praying it away,
[00:22:56 –> 00:22:59] but, like, acknowledging, like, this is difficult for me,
[00:22:59 –> 00:23:00] or this, like, emotional space,
[00:23:00 –> 00:23:01] I don’t have,
[00:23:03 –> 00:23:06] like, the capability to fix this on my own,
[00:23:06 –> 00:23:08] and I need Your help here.
[00:23:08 –> 00:23:09] I think this is a beautiful way
[00:23:09 –> 00:23:11] in which we can invite the Lord to this space,
[00:23:11 –> 00:23:13] but also just lean on Him and lovingly borrow
[00:23:13 –> 00:23:17] and take what He gives us in His relationship.
[00:23:17 –> 00:23:19] Just a quick, sorry to add, I just wanna add something
[00:23:19 –> 00:23:20] ’cause I think that’s awesome.
[00:23:20 –> 00:23:20] Like,
[00:23:21 –> 00:23:23] we’ve all probably had the experience,
[00:23:23 –> 00:23:25] but we’ve always all probably also have given it
[00:23:25 –> 00:23:27] in spiritual direction or confession with someone
[00:23:27 –> 00:23:29] when someone,
[00:23:30 –> 00:23:32] like, maybe confess to something really intense,
[00:23:32 –> 00:23:36] and they want you to join in their panic of it
[00:23:36 –> 00:23:38] or want you to, like, join in their, like, shame of it
[00:23:38 –> 00:23:40] or disgust with themselves.
[00:23:40 –> 00:23:42] And then you offer them, like, a look of mercy
[00:23:42 –> 00:23:45] and the look of tenderness.
[00:23:45 –> 00:23:46] And it’s startling
[00:23:46 –> 00:23:48] because you’re like, “Oh,” like,
[00:23:48 –> 00:23:49] I remember, in spiritual direction, growing up,
[00:23:49 –> 00:23:51] like, I’m totally concerned about something,
[00:23:51 –> 00:23:52] but I’m looking at my spiritual director,
[00:23:52 –> 00:23:55] and he’s entirely unconcerned about it.
[00:23:55 –> 00:23:58] I was like, “Oh, wow,” like, “Maybe this is not a cause
[00:23:58 –> 00:24:01] for me to consider a vocational crisis ’cause of his face.”
[00:24:01 –> 00:24:03] And he’s like, “Okay, it’s okay.”
[00:24:03 –> 00:24:04] You’re like, “Oh,”
[00:24:04 –> 00:24:05] and you have this moment of, like,
[00:24:05 –> 00:24:09] maybe my feelings or my experience of this can be different.
[00:24:09 –> 00:24:11] And sometimes they’re, like, people want you
[00:24:11 –> 00:24:13] to join in they’re disgust for themselves
[00:24:13 –> 00:24:14] when they confess something.
[00:24:14 –> 00:24:15] And you’re like, “Oh, okay, we just have mercy here.”
[00:24:15 –> 00:24:17] And they’re, like startled, you know?
[00:24:17 –> 00:24:20] And so, again, they borrow your face.
[00:24:20 –> 00:24:22] They borrow your look of mercy,
[00:24:22 –> 00:24:24] and then, all of a sudden, maybe something shifts in them,
[00:24:24 –> 00:24:25] and they’re like,
[00:24:25 –> 00:24:27] “Well, maybe I don’t have to hate myself right now.
[00:24:27 –> 00:24:30] Maybe this disgust that I feel is important to repent of,
[00:24:30 –> 00:24:32] but it doesn’t have to define me.”
[00:24:32 –> 00:24:34] because of the face of the confessor who’s just like,
[00:24:34 –> 00:24:35] “Yeah, I don’t have to,
[00:24:35 –> 00:24:37] I’m not gonna join you in you’re disgust.
[00:24:37 –> 00:24:39] I’m actually and have mercy on you.”
[00:24:39 –> 00:24:41] And it feels, like, it feels, like disruptive,
[00:24:41 –> 00:24:45] but also, you’re like, “Wow, it can be different.”
[00:24:45 –> 00:24:45] Yeah.
[00:24:45 –> 00:24:46] And I love that, Father Angelus,
[00:24:46 –> 00:24:51] ’cause it’s funny, I’ve had this experience as a director
[00:24:51 –> 00:24:53] or especially, like, a retreat director,
[00:24:53 –> 00:24:55] just delighting in people and especially their prayer.
[00:24:55 –> 00:24:56] And people have told me
[00:24:56 –> 00:25:00] that I get more excited about their prayer than they do.
[00:25:00 –> 00:25:03] And it’s one of those things where if, in the direction,
[00:25:03 –> 00:25:05] if you embody, like,
[00:25:07 –> 00:25:08] yeah, just
[00:25:09 –> 00:25:11] a real faith and hope and love
[00:25:11 –> 00:25:13] of what’s happening in the other person.
[00:25:13 –> 00:25:15] Like, someone said, they’re like, “Hey, listen, you’re like,
[00:25:15 –> 00:25:16] you really believe this.
[00:25:16 –> 00:25:19] It’s very clear that you believe in my prayer more than me,
[00:25:19 –> 00:25:22] so I’m gonna take a chance to, like, step out on your faith
[00:25:22 –> 00:25:25] that you actually think this is real,
[00:25:25 –> 00:25:26] even when people struggle to believe.”
[00:25:26 –> 00:25:29] And I just love that because we can embody something
[00:25:29 –> 00:25:31] that, hey, listen, this is real,
[00:25:31 –> 00:25:32] and I need you to hold onto me.
[00:25:32 –> 00:25:34] We’re gonna step out on this together,
[00:25:34 –> 00:25:38] and you’re just gonna borrow my stability and my faith
[00:25:38 –> 00:25:39] in what God is doing.
[00:25:40 –> 00:25:44] And so I love that, being a spiritual father as well.
[00:25:44 –> 00:25:46] People often, like, “Okay, I don’t really believe,
[00:25:46 –> 00:25:47] but you do,
[00:25:47 –> 00:25:49] and I trust you and your fatherhood is real,
[00:25:49 –> 00:25:50] so I’m just gonna cling to you,
[00:25:50 –> 00:25:52] and you just keep leading me.”
[00:25:52 –> 00:25:55] And I just love that
[00:25:55 –> 00:25:58] because I think we do all that, we do that all the time.
[00:25:58 –> 00:26:01] Like, I might suffer and struggle,
[00:26:01 –> 00:26:04] but when we have people around us that buoy us up
[00:26:04 –> 00:26:06] and hold us and, like, carry us,
[00:26:07 –> 00:26:09] again, it’s this borrowing kind of concept.
[00:26:13 –> 00:26:14] Yeah.
[00:26:14 –> 00:26:15] And I do,
[00:26:15 –> 00:26:16] right, it’s like
[00:26:17 –> 00:26:18] we receive, we give.
[00:26:18 –> 00:26:20] That’s the movement we’re hoping for.
[00:26:22 –> 00:26:24] I do think it’s a great gift
[00:26:24 –> 00:26:26] that we can give to the world as Christians,
[00:26:26 –> 00:26:28] like, not just as friars, spiritual directors,
[00:26:28 –> 00:26:29] confessors, et cetera,
[00:26:29 –> 00:26:30] but
[00:26:32 –> 00:26:36] to be the people from which others can, if you will,
[00:26:36 –> 00:26:39] like, borrow hope and borrow peace
[00:26:39 –> 00:26:41] and even, like, and borrow faith, right?
[00:26:41 –> 00:26:44] Like, that we can be so,
[00:26:44 –> 00:26:45] you know,
[00:26:45 –> 00:26:47] built up
[00:26:47 –> 00:26:50] that, like, this can be a source of this for other people,
[00:26:53 –> 00:26:56] which I understand is, probably for a lot of listeners,
[00:26:56 –> 00:26:57] is like, “Okay, well,
[00:26:58 –> 00:27:02] I need to get my own house in order first.”
[00:27:02 –> 00:27:03] And I can,
[00:27:05 –> 00:27:07] I wasn’t leading to this,
[00:27:07 –> 00:27:10] but, you know, an image that we started out the year with
[00:27:12 –> 00:27:15] was Jesus in the boat with the disciples during the storm,
[00:27:15 –> 00:27:16] right?
[00:27:16 –> 00:27:16] And there’s this whole back and forth,
[00:27:16 –> 00:27:18] and Jesus is asleep,
[00:27:18 –> 00:27:21] and the question comes up of do you even care?
[00:27:21 –> 00:27:23] But I think that there’s something so interesting there
[00:27:23 –> 00:27:25] of, like, right, like, there’s the,
[00:27:25 –> 00:27:29] the waters are dysregulated, the waters are stormy.
[00:27:29 –> 00:27:30] And because of that,
[00:27:30 –> 00:27:31] because of what’s going on out there,
[00:27:31 –> 00:27:34] like, the disciples themselves, like, you know,
[00:27:34 –> 00:27:38] your sister’s kids become dysregulated and panicking
[00:27:38 –> 00:27:39] and scared and, like,
[00:27:40 –> 00:27:44] and then Jesus is there, just
[00:27:44 –> 00:27:47] being still and being confident and
[00:27:49 –> 00:27:52] having, like, confidence in his Father, right?
[00:27:52 –> 00:27:55] And, like, so, like, it’s, if you will, what they needed
[00:27:56 –> 00:27:57] was being offered.
[00:27:57 –> 00:28:00] Like, they could have received, in that moment,
[00:28:00 –> 00:28:02] and made their own Jesus’s peace,
[00:28:02 –> 00:28:03] Jesus’s confidence in the Father.
[00:28:04 –> 00:28:06] But they didn’t, they couldn’t.
[00:28:07 –> 00:28:09] But I do think this is
[00:28:10 –> 00:28:11] something being offered to us
[00:28:13 –> 00:28:16] amid the ongoing storms out there, right?
[00:28:16 –> 00:28:20] That there’s still a way in which we can turn to Jesus
[00:28:20 –> 00:28:24] who remains actually peaceful and confident in the world,
[00:28:24 –> 00:28:25] and that there’s actually a way
[00:28:25 –> 00:28:26] in which He can give us peace
[00:28:26 –> 00:28:27] because of His confidence in the Father.
[00:28:27 –> 00:28:28] And,
[00:28:29 –> 00:28:31] like, I didn’t use this language,
[00:28:31 –> 00:28:34] but I think that there’s something here, like with,
[00:28:36 –> 00:28:38] you know, like, the newborn baby Jesus.
[00:28:38 –> 00:28:41] I mentioned this in a homily to the postulants,
[00:28:41 –> 00:28:42] or to the guys on Christmas,
[00:28:42 –> 00:28:43] but, like there’s,
[00:28:45 –> 00:28:47] I dunno, just, like, when Jesus was born into the world,
[00:28:47 –> 00:28:49] like, just look at, like, how small, how peaceful,
[00:28:49 –> 00:28:51] how not in a hurry He came, how meek He came,
[00:28:51 –> 00:28:54] how confident He came, how vulnerable He came.
[00:28:55 –> 00:28:57] And there’s a way in which, like, Jesus, if you will, like,
[00:28:57 –> 00:28:59] in the midst of the world today,
[00:28:59 –> 00:29:01] we are prone, like the disciples in the boat,
[00:29:01 –> 00:29:04] to get chaotic and to get crazy and to get freaked out
[00:29:04 –> 00:29:06] and to go in this panic mode.
[00:29:09 –> 00:29:10] And it’s, like, it’s challenging,
[00:29:10 –> 00:29:12] but, like, Jesus, they’re, like,
[00:29:12 –> 00:29:14] that peace is still being offered to us today,
[00:29:14 –> 00:29:16] no matter, like, what’s going on in the world.
[00:29:16 –> 00:29:21] Like, we can have interior grace given, if you will,
[00:29:21 –> 00:29:23] interior calmness and peace regulation,
[00:29:24 –> 00:29:28] like, today, even though the storm is happening.
[00:29:28 –> 00:29:30] But we do have to go to Him and to ask
[00:29:30 –> 00:29:32] and to grow, I think, in,
[00:29:33 –> 00:29:36] like, why, why it’s still reasonable and honest
[00:29:36 –> 00:29:40] and the actual most correct disposition to have.
[00:29:40 –> 00:29:41] Father Innocent? – Yeah.
[00:29:41 –> 00:29:43] I mean, I just agree with that.
[00:29:43 –> 00:29:44] I agree 1,000%,
[00:29:44 –> 00:29:48] and I think of the Eucharist, right?
[00:29:48 –> 00:29:49] I think it’s Mary Caucus who says
[00:29:52 –> 00:29:54] that there’s just this profound reality
[00:29:54 –> 00:29:58] in what the Eucharist does for us every single day.
[00:29:58 –> 00:30:00] And what does it mean to live a eucharistic life?
[00:30:00 –> 00:30:03] Like, the God of the universe hides in a piece of bread,
[00:30:05 –> 00:30:08] and He’s present, body, blood, soul, and divinity, right?
[00:30:08 –> 00:30:12] And so His presence is so constant for us,
[00:30:12 –> 00:30:14] the tabernacle’s here for us.
[00:30:14 –> 00:30:15] And so just like the baby Jesus,
[00:30:15 –> 00:30:19] we go into, we go into the church or the chapel,
[00:30:19 –> 00:30:20] and we kneel before a tabernacle.
[00:30:20 –> 00:30:24] Like, there’s a real person there who gives us Himself.
[00:30:24 –> 00:30:27] And Mary Caucus talks about the Eucharist being so humble
[00:30:27 –> 00:30:29] and so not threatening.
[00:30:29 –> 00:30:31] He doesn’t, the Eucharist doesn’t even speak
[00:30:31 –> 00:30:36] because He doesn’t, Jesus doesn’t want even
[00:30:36 –> 00:30:39] audible words to scare people away.
[00:30:39 –> 00:30:43] But there’s just such a profound sense of peace
[00:30:43 –> 00:30:45] and silence and stillness there.
[00:30:45 –> 00:30:48] Like, the most stable place in the world
[00:30:48 –> 00:30:50] is before a tabernacle, where the living God
[00:30:50 –> 00:30:53] gives Himself in such profound,
[00:30:55 –> 00:30:56] like, just peace and presence.
[00:30:56 –> 00:30:58] Like, He’s there,
[00:30:58 –> 00:31:03] and in adoration with candles in a dimly-lit room,
[00:31:03 –> 00:31:05] Jesus gives Himself to you,
[00:31:05 –> 00:31:07] and He just draws us.
[00:31:07 –> 00:31:08] And
[00:31:09 –> 00:31:10] just like holding a child.
[00:31:10 –> 00:31:12] Everybody, when we hold a child,
[00:31:12 –> 00:31:14] you’re like, “Okay, I gotta be really careful,
[00:31:14 –> 00:31:16] I gotta be calm, I gotta be gentle.”
[00:31:16 –> 00:31:17] But, like, the same reality
[00:31:17 –> 00:31:19] happens in front of the Eucharist,
[00:31:19 –> 00:31:21] where we just wanna match and borrow
[00:31:21 –> 00:31:23] and really settle into His presence.
[00:31:25 –> 00:31:29] This has a real capacity in a mystical,
[00:31:29 –> 00:31:31] also in a physical way to change us
[00:31:33 –> 00:31:36] and dispel fear, dispel darkness,
[00:31:36 –> 00:31:38] dispel the dysregulations of our hearts.
[00:31:38 –> 00:31:39] And so I think it’s profoundly eucharistic.
[00:31:39 –> 00:31:44] The same reality is that it can really stabilize us
[00:31:44 –> 00:31:46] because of Jesus’s humility and the Eucharist
[00:31:46 –> 00:31:48] and the calm, the peace,
[00:31:48 –> 00:31:52] and really, like, the ultimate, the love that’s offered.
[00:31:52 –> 00:31:54] Again, I’m just moved by that.
[00:31:54 –> 00:31:56] If we could trust and make an act of faith
[00:31:56 –> 00:31:58] in what’s actually happening,
[00:31:58 –> 00:32:01] I do think, like, we would, like, be changed,
[00:32:01 –> 00:32:04] obviously spiritually and physically.
[00:32:04 –> 00:32:05] And not to be dramatic,
[00:32:05 –> 00:32:06] but just to add to that, like,
[00:32:06 –> 00:32:10] when the 5-year-old is dysregulated and crying
[00:32:10 –> 00:32:13] and all upset, in so many ways is eucharistic,
[00:32:13 –> 00:32:15] my sister walks up to him and offers,
[00:32:15 –> 00:32:17] says, “This is my body,”
[00:32:17 –> 00:32:19] like, “My body’s here for you,
[00:32:19 –> 00:32:20] and I’ll hold you,
[00:32:20 –> 00:32:21] and I’ll nurture you,
[00:32:21 –> 00:32:22] and I’ll comfort you
[00:32:22 –> 00:32:24] and bring you back to a place of peace.”
[00:32:24 –> 00:32:25] And so it’s interesting,
[00:32:25 –> 00:32:28] the most regulated body to ever live is Jesus, right?
[00:32:28 –> 00:32:31] And so in the midst of the mass, in the midst of adoration,
[00:32:31 –> 00:32:32] we show up all worked up.
[00:32:32 –> 00:32:35] We show up, like, dysregulated and hurting and worried
[00:32:35 –> 00:32:37] and afraid and anxious about things.
[00:32:37 –> 00:32:40] And Jesus is like, “This is my body,
[00:32:40 –> 00:32:42] my body that’s at peace, my body that’s safe,
[00:32:42 –> 00:32:43] my body that’s connected,
[00:32:43 –> 00:32:46] my body that has a lot of hope in God the Father
[00:32:46 –> 00:32:47] to provide for everything,” right?
[00:32:47 –> 00:32:49] And so it’s really beautiful.
[00:32:49 –> 00:32:52] And in another image, like, for the little kid
[00:32:52 –> 00:32:54] who’s learning to play outside,
[00:32:54 –> 00:32:56] and he falls,
[00:32:56 –> 00:33:00] and he hurts himself on the ground,
[00:33:00 –> 00:33:02] he immediately will turn to someone
[00:33:02 –> 00:33:04] who can translate it for him.
[00:33:04 –> 00:33:06] Like, “Did I just hurt myself?”
[00:33:07 –> 00:33:09] And, like, maybe he skins his knees,
[00:33:09 –> 00:33:10] and he’s crying,
[00:33:10 –> 00:33:12] but he’s not really crying because he’s uncomfortable,
[00:33:12 –> 00:33:13] but he’s trying to translate.
[00:33:13 –> 00:33:15] So he turns to his dad or turns to his mom.
[00:33:15 –> 00:33:16] And what does mom or dad say?
[00:33:16 –> 00:33:17] He’s like, “Hey, you’re okay, buddy. Just get up.
[00:33:17 –> 00:33:18] You’re fine.
[00:33:18 –> 00:33:20] Let me wipe that, like wipe your knee off.”
[00:33:20 –> 00:33:22] And then he’s like, “Oh, I’m okay.”
[00:33:22 –> 00:33:24] And then he can keep running, right?
[00:33:24 –> 00:33:26] But it’s funny, if he falls
[00:33:26 –> 00:33:28] and mom’s particularly, like, freaking out
[00:33:28 –> 00:33:29] ’cause every time the kid falls,
[00:33:29 –> 00:33:30] and then mom’s freaking out,
[00:33:30 –> 00:33:32] and then the kid’s like, “I’m not okay then.”
[00:33:32 –> 00:33:33] And he starts to cry more
[00:33:33 –> 00:33:36] because mom’s, like, really worried, you know?
[00:33:36 –> 00:33:38] And sometimes kids hurt themselves,
[00:33:38 –> 00:33:39] so mom is worried, I get that.
[00:33:39 –> 00:33:43] But, like, in the recognition that, like, “I’m falling,
[00:33:43 –> 00:33:45] I’m trying to play, I’m trying to have fun
[00:33:45 –> 00:33:47] with my brothers and sisters, trying to keep up with them,
[00:33:47 –> 00:33:48] and I fall,
[00:33:48 –> 00:33:49] and I look to mom or dad
[00:33:49 –> 00:33:50] to translate this experience with me.”
[00:33:50 –> 00:33:53] And, in so many ways, how often do we fall?
[00:33:53 –> 00:33:54] How often do we struggle?
[00:33:54 –> 00:33:55] How often do we,
[00:33:55 –> 00:33:58] and the looking to Jesus, to looking to the Father
[00:33:58 –> 00:34:00] to translate this for me, like.
[00:34:00 –> 00:34:04] And the Father’s like, “No, you’re okay, keep going.
[00:34:04 –> 00:34:04] It’s all good.”
[00:34:04 –> 00:34:06] Like, “Little buddy, get up.
[00:34:06 –> 00:34:07] We’ll wash you up,
[00:34:07 –> 00:34:09] and we’ll keep going.”
[00:34:09 –> 00:34:11] And then you learn how to, like, be uncomfortable
[00:34:11 –> 00:34:13] and, like, get hurt, if you will, and keep going
[00:34:13 –> 00:34:15] because of a translation,
[00:34:15 –> 00:34:17] because of a gaze that someone’s there with you
[00:34:17 –> 00:34:20] who offers you their body to be present,
[00:34:20 –> 00:34:22] and they offer you a translation.
[00:34:22 –> 00:34:24] Like, “What does this mean right now?
[00:34:24 –> 00:34:25] No, okay, I’m okay,
[00:34:25 –> 00:34:27] and I can keep going.”
[00:34:27 –> 00:34:28] I think it’s really profound.
[00:34:30 –> 00:34:32] The thing, yeah, I just love this,
[00:34:32 –> 00:34:34] but the thing that, it’s tough,
[00:34:34 –> 00:34:35] like, to do this also too, you know,
[00:34:35 –> 00:34:36] just to acknowledge that, but.
[00:34:38 –> 00:34:39] ‘Cause what this presupposes
[00:34:39 –> 00:34:41] is that we’re entering into prayer,
[00:34:41 –> 00:34:45] entering into, like, these spaces as children, right?
[00:34:45 –> 00:34:46] Not as, like, these adults or these people
[00:34:46 –> 00:34:48] who have figured everything out.
[00:34:48 –> 00:34:51] And I’m open to, yeah, just ask the Lord,
[00:34:51 –> 00:34:54] or, like, to lean on Him in this way.
[00:34:54 –> 00:34:57] ‘Cause, yeah, my temptation could be,
[00:34:57 –> 00:35:00] or, like, as I experience something difficult,
[00:35:00 –> 00:35:03] my temptation would be not to, like, lean on the Lord,
[00:35:03 –> 00:35:04] but, like, “I gotta figure this out.”
[00:35:04 –> 00:35:06] Like, “I gotta change my attitude,”
[00:35:06 –> 00:35:07] or, like, “There’s something wrong with me.”
[00:35:07 –> 00:35:10] And just, like, once again, we always go back to,
[00:35:11 –> 00:35:13] yeah, it’s just, like, my own,
[00:35:13 –> 00:35:15] like, me looking at my own stuff and judging my own stuff
[00:35:15 –> 00:35:19] as opposed to making that childlike turn,
[00:35:19 –> 00:35:21] and like, “Hey, dad, I’m hurting right now,”
[00:35:21 –> 00:35:23] or, like, “Am I okay,” you know?
[00:35:23 –> 00:35:24] And just, like, trusting that the Father
[00:35:24 –> 00:35:28] is going to provide not just this regulating self,
[00:35:28 –> 00:35:30] but just the truth of who I am in His eyes.
[00:35:30 –> 00:35:32] And that’s just tough sometimes,
[00:35:32 –> 00:35:34] especially, like, in the midst of the storm
[00:35:34 –> 00:35:35] as the disciples are there,
[00:35:35 –> 00:35:36] and they’re freaking out
[00:35:36 –> 00:35:38] ’cause it feels like we’re about to drown,
[00:35:38 –> 00:35:41] and the Lord is sleeping, you know?
[00:35:42 –> 00:35:43] But I think it’s good to acknowledge that,
[00:35:43 –> 00:35:47] but also to just, to even maybe recognize, like, “God, I,”
[00:35:47 –> 00:35:49] like, “Lord, I don’t have that childlike heart,
[00:35:49 –> 00:35:50] the childlike disposition.”
[00:35:50 –> 00:35:51] Like, “Can you help me there?”
[00:35:51 –> 00:35:53] Or, like, “I just feel like I have to figure things out
[00:35:53 –> 00:35:54] all the time,
[00:35:54 –> 00:35:55] and is that true?”
[00:35:56 –> 00:36:01] And just to rest with the Lord in that space as we try to
[00:36:01 –> 00:36:04] make attempts to be more free in our articulation
[00:36:04 –> 00:36:07] of where we’re at emotionally or where we’re at spiritually
[00:36:07 –> 00:36:10] or, like, even too, like, in front of the Eucharist,
[00:36:10 –> 00:36:13] where, like, you’re just really quiet,
[00:36:13 –> 00:36:15] and, “I just would like to hear something from You,”
[00:36:15 –> 00:36:16] you know?
[00:36:16 –> 00:36:18] And so just to, yeah, I just offer that too
[00:36:18 –> 00:36:20] just as a way of looking at,
[00:36:20 –> 00:36:22] and just more so, like, recognizing sometimes
[00:36:22 –> 00:36:24] it’s not that easy to do.
[00:36:25 –> 00:36:27] Yeah, I think that’s great, guys.
[00:36:27 –> 00:36:30] And, like, I appreciate the directions it’s gone into.
[00:36:30 –> 00:36:32] And I think it’s beautiful,
[00:36:32 –> 00:36:34] and I think it’s something, you know,
[00:36:34 –> 00:36:36] obviously with what Father Angelus was saying,
[00:36:38 –> 00:36:40] certainly like John, you know, like, resting his chest
[00:36:40 –> 00:36:41] on the heart of Jesus,
[00:36:41 –> 00:36:44] like, it takes another interpretation
[00:36:44 –> 00:36:46] or a lens to look at that at,
[00:36:47 –> 00:36:49] but, like, yeah, this is my body,
[00:36:49 –> 00:36:50] and how Jesus gives us His body,
[00:36:50 –> 00:36:52] and He remains with us.
[00:36:54 –> 00:36:55] Yeah.
[00:36:55 –> 00:36:56] And it is hard,
[00:36:56 –> 00:36:57] and that’s the thing, right?
[00:36:57 –> 00:37:00] Like with, like, the whole storm and the boat thing,
[00:37:00 –> 00:37:01] like, those were real storms in the boat,
[00:37:01 –> 00:37:03] and the water was coming over,
[00:37:03 –> 00:37:04] and
[00:37:06 –> 00:37:09] it was extremely humanly reasonable
[00:37:09 –> 00:37:10] to freak out and to panic,
[00:37:12 –> 00:37:15] but yet, there’s something greater being offered
[00:37:15 –> 00:37:16] that we have access to.
[00:37:17 –> 00:37:19] But, right, like,
[00:37:19 –> 00:37:20] and that’s where I think the borrowing thing’s important
[00:37:20 –> 00:37:21] ’cause, you know,
[00:37:22 –> 00:37:24] the disciples in the boat there, like,
[00:37:25 –> 00:37:27] they were left to their own devices.
[00:37:27 –> 00:37:28] They were in trouble,
[00:37:29 –> 00:37:30] right?
[00:37:30 –> 00:37:32] But they were in the boat with the one who can,
[00:37:32 –> 00:37:35] who has authority to calm the seas with the word.
[00:37:35 –> 00:37:36] And Jesus remains with us,
[00:37:38 –> 00:37:39] you know?
[00:37:39 –> 00:37:40] You could even say, like,
[00:37:40 –> 00:37:43] He gives His body seemingly asleep, very much alive,
[00:37:43 –> 00:37:44] but in the most holy Eucharist,
[00:37:44 –> 00:37:46] in the tabernacle, in each of our churches.
[00:37:48 –> 00:37:50] And there’s this, there’s a calm, there’s a presence,
[00:37:50 –> 00:37:53] there’s a confidence being communicated there.
[00:37:53 –> 00:37:55] We receive Him into our very selves.
[00:37:57 –> 00:37:59] And I do think that’s the invitation,
[00:37:59 –> 00:38:02] particularly in times of adoration, in times of,
[00:38:02 –> 00:38:05] when we receive Jesus in the Eucharist,
[00:38:06 –> 00:38:08] we use the language of borrowing,
[00:38:08 –> 00:38:09] but asking, right, like,
[00:38:09 –> 00:38:12] to receive what we can’t give ourselves.
[00:38:12 –> 00:38:14] And we don’t have to give ourselves to ask for His peace,
[00:38:14 –> 00:38:15] His confidence, His hope
[00:38:17 –> 00:38:19] so that His life can be lived in us.
[00:38:19 –> 00:38:22] And I think that’s part of the dignity that we all have
[00:38:22 –> 00:38:23] and the beauty of our faith
[00:38:23 –> 00:38:25] that we actually have access to that.
[00:38:26 –> 00:38:27] Not that it’s easy,
[00:38:27 –> 00:38:28] but,
[00:38:28 –> 00:38:32] like, again, it’s grace and it’s God,
[00:38:32 –> 00:38:34] and, yeah, anyway.
[00:38:34 –> 00:38:35] And even the interpretive stuff,
[00:38:35 –> 00:38:36] I would encourage people, like,
[00:38:36 –> 00:38:38] what Angelus was saying about
[00:38:39 –> 00:38:41] how does Jesus wanna interpret the things happening,
[00:38:41 –> 00:38:42] or looking to another.
[00:38:42 –> 00:38:43] Anyway, that was very good.
[00:38:45 –> 00:38:48] Anything else you guys wanna add onto it before we close?
[00:38:48 –> 00:38:50] Just to,
[00:38:50 –> 00:38:52] you had said it a little ways back, bro,
[00:38:52 –> 00:38:55] but, like, if we wanna live this freedom
[00:38:55 –> 00:38:58] and this capacity to receive
[00:38:58 –> 00:38:59] the safety and the connection of the Lord
[00:38:59 –> 00:39:00] and to be able to offer that,
[00:39:01 –> 00:39:03] it takes work, right?
[00:39:04 –> 00:39:07] It’s not necessarily just, like, man,
[00:39:07 –> 00:39:08] in the moment of being triggered,
[00:39:08 –> 00:39:11] but how can I, how can I, like, be attentive,
[00:39:11 –> 00:39:12] more attentive to my heart,
[00:39:12 –> 00:39:14] more attentive to like, wow, like,
[00:39:14 –> 00:39:15] I wanna get up every day and start the day
[00:39:15 –> 00:39:18] by, like, proclaiming a safety and a connection with God
[00:39:18 –> 00:39:20] that allows me to be safe with Him,
[00:39:20 –> 00:39:22] so then when I face the difficulty,
[00:39:22 –> 00:39:26] or the storm throughout the day that interiorly has me,
[00:39:26 –> 00:39:28] I can have this, like, memory of like, “Okay, Lord,
[00:39:28 –> 00:39:31] I made a choice today that I wanna do the work
[00:39:31 –> 00:39:33] to remain safe with you.
[00:39:33 –> 00:39:35] I wanna do the work to remain in my heart with you
[00:39:35 –> 00:39:37] so I can
[00:39:37 –> 00:39:40] navigate storms
[00:39:40 –> 00:39:41] in a way that I can stay connected
[00:39:41 –> 00:39:43] and then be able to receive what I need to receive
[00:39:43 –> 00:39:45] and then give what I need to give, right?
[00:39:45 –> 00:39:48] And so it’s an invitation to the spiritual work,
[00:39:48 –> 00:39:50] to the emotional work, to the reality of, like, just,
[00:39:50 –> 00:39:52] I have, sometimes, have people journal, like,
[00:39:52 –> 00:39:54] how much of your day did you spend
[00:39:54 –> 00:39:55] in a safe, regulated space?
[00:39:55 –> 00:39:58] Or how much of your day did you spend dysregulated
[00:39:58 –> 00:40:00] in an inner storm
[00:40:00 –> 00:40:04] that you may or may not have been aware of, right?
[00:40:04 –> 00:40:05] And so if people can start to navigate,
[00:40:05 –> 00:40:07] like, “Man, yeah, I had,
[00:40:07 –> 00:40:10] I spent half of my day just really disconnected
[00:40:10 –> 00:40:11] and all worked up.”
[00:40:11 –> 00:40:13] And then the reality of, like,
[00:40:13 –> 00:40:15] “Oh, can we be curious about that?
[00:40:15 –> 00:40:16] Okay, what do you need from God right now?”
[00:40:16 –> 00:40:18] “Well, I need to come back down.
[00:40:18 –> 00:40:20] I need to be able to, like, be acknowledged
[00:40:20 –> 00:40:22] and name what happened to me and why I got upset
[00:40:22 –> 00:40:26] and to be able to receive what I need to receive there.”
[00:40:26 –> 00:40:28] So, again, the reference to the work,
[00:40:28 –> 00:40:30] it takes a bit of work,
[00:40:30 –> 00:40:33] and, mainly, at least initially, it’s an awareness.
[00:40:33 –> 00:40:34] Like, “What’s happening to me?
[00:40:34 –> 00:40:35] What part of my day
[00:40:35 –> 00:40:38] do I spend connected and safe with the Lord in the boat,
[00:40:38 –> 00:40:38] even if it’s storming,”
[00:40:38 –> 00:40:39] or, “What part of my day
[00:40:39 –> 00:40:42] am I, like, getting pummeled by the rain and a storm,
[00:40:42 –> 00:40:44] and then it’s bearing fruit
[00:40:44 –> 00:40:46] that doesn’t feel like I’m in relationship
[00:40:46 –> 00:40:48] or a deep space of safety with the Lord?”
[00:40:51 –> 00:40:53] Amen. Awesome.
[00:40:55 –> 00:40:56] Okay.
[00:40:56 –> 00:40:59] Bless Father PT, in name of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
[00:40:59 –> 00:41:00] Amen. – Amen.
[00:41:00 –> 00:41:03] Thank You, Jesus, for Your goodness and Your closeness
[00:41:03 –> 00:41:04] and Your mercy
[00:41:06 –> 00:41:07] and Your presence.
[00:41:07 –> 00:41:09] And, Lord, we just bring to You our desire
[00:41:09 –> 00:41:10] for hope and peace,
[00:41:12 –> 00:41:13] that we may receive Your peace, if You will,
[00:41:13 –> 00:41:16] Your regulation in a dysregulated world.
[00:41:19 –> 00:41:20] And we thank You for being so close to us
[00:41:20 –> 00:41:23] and for giving us access to Your holy body,
[00:41:23 –> 00:41:24] blood, soul, and divinity.
[00:41:26 –> 00:41:27] And we make this prayer
[00:41:27 –> 00:41:28] in the name of Jesus, the Lord. Amen.
[00:41:28 –> 00:41:30] Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Amen.
[00:41:30 –> 00:41:32] Amen. – Amen.
[00:41:32 –> 00:41:36] So Father PT just dropped out. We’ll see what that means.
[00:41:38 –> 00:41:41] Big announcement coming, Advent 2026,
[00:41:41 –> 00:41:45] new personality test called which 49er are you?
[00:41:45 –> 00:41:47] (hosts laughs)
[00:41:47 –> 00:41:48] That was kind of fun.
[00:41:48 –> 00:41:50] But you’re, like, you and Father PT can roll there.
[00:41:50 –> 00:41:51] The reality of me and Father Angelus,
[00:41:51 –> 00:41:54] I’m no Brock Purdy ’cause he played at Iowa State,
[00:41:54 –> 00:41:55] but other than that,
[00:41:55 –> 00:41:56] you’re like- – You’re the two
[00:41:56 –> 00:41:57] football players of this group.
[00:41:57 –> 00:41:59] I know, but.
[00:41:59 –> 00:42:00] I know – You guys
[00:42:00 –> 00:42:00] pay much more attention
[00:42:00 –> 00:42:01] to pro sports. – You guys are above
[00:42:01 –> 00:42:03] our little silly games.
[00:42:04 –> 00:42:05] I like it.
[00:42:05 –> 00:42:06] All right.
[00:42:06 –> 00:42:08] We’ll see you, everybody.
[00:42:08 –> 00:42:09] Peace, guys. – Peace, y’all.
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