About This Conversation
In this special episode of Flicker & Burn, Rob Kaczmark and Branden J. Stanley step behind the camera to share how Heaven in Stone and Glass came together. As co-directors of the film, they spent 45 days across four trips to France capturing the Gothic cathedrals featured in the film and finding a way to translate Bishop Robert Barron’s script into a cinematic experience.
They unpack the creative and technical choices behind the production, from filming in changing seasons and low light to choosing lenses, camera movement, sound design, and visual effects that would make the cathedrals feel like characters in their own right. They also share the practical challenges of working inside active places of worship, navigating permissions, hauling gear through historic spaces, and adapting when the ideal filmmaking setup simply was not possible.
The conversation also goes deeper into the meaning behind the architecture itself. Rob and Branden reflect on how the stained glass, sculpture, light, scale, and hidden details were designed not simply to impress, but to communicate faith and draw people toward God. They describe the film as a kind of virtual pilgrimage for viewers who may never have the opportunity to experience these cathedrals in person.
They also share the personal side of the project, including the trust built over years of working with Word on Fire, the sacrifices made by their families and team, and the way birth, loss, faith, and gratitude became woven into the making of the film itself.
This episode is a behind-the-scenes look at filmmaking, Catholic art, sacred architecture, creative collaboration, and what it takes to make something beautiful at scale.
The Episode
Number: 10 (Bonus)
Released: Sept. 21, 20
Duration: 01:21:08
Guest: Branden J. Stanley
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